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plumberintraining

#45
March 20, 2013, 10:07:53 AM
Can someone write out a generic letter i can take to my local MP for the cause.........cheers
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Plumber

#46
March 20, 2013, 09:21:33 PM
Quote from: robbo on March 19, 2013, 08:34:36 PM
hi plumber, you have to do volume, i wrote one email and then copy/paste the whole lot of M.Ps.eads into it,try that,cheers

Good old copy paste trick aye! Something generic on here would be great! Imagine the spam lol..
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Badger

#47
March 21, 2013, 07:28:41 AM
Your welcome to use any of my rants on here mate, probably the one to Campbell live be best, the rest are more personal to my situation.

Perhaps a concise open letter outlining the issues, then we could all copy and paste and forwards. I would do it but I am Welsh and being brief and to the point ain't in my genes.
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robbo

#48
March 21, 2013, 11:15:49 AM
hi guys,looks like a report is due out:- 5.4.2013. cheers.
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Plumbers, Gasfitters, and Drainlayers Amendment BillThe bill proposes amendments to the Plumbers, Gasfitters, and Drainlayers Act 2006 to validate a disciplinary levy and an offences fee prescribed by the Plumbers, Gasfitters, and Drainlayers Board. The bill also seeks to extend the Board's power to impose levies so that it has funding for all of its functions, including the prosecution of non-registered persons.
Member in charge:   Hon Maurice Williamson
Type of bill:   Government
Parliament:   50
Bill no:   101-1
Introduction:   11/3/13
First reading:   14/3/13
Referred to:   Government Administration Committee
Report due:   5/4/13
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integrated

#49
March 21, 2013, 06:10:33 PM
so i received a txt this arvo from pgdb saying re-licensing is available for next yr - guess that means they have had the word shes all good in the hood to roll onwards and upwards with donation gathering for their charitable good deeds?!?
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Jaxcat

#50
March 21, 2013, 10:38:34 PM
Select Committee got an extension from the Business Committee and now do not have to report back until 22nd April.   Also all correspondence will be tabled as if it were a submission - so well done to everyone who sent one in - they didn't exactly say how many they had, but they did allude to the fact that they had received quite a few.
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Rodza1

#51
March 21, 2013, 11:03:55 PM
Hi Jax, thats great news.

I spent hours fine tuning my submission to make it as convincing and easy to follow as possible but yet still packed with basic powerful information.
Stoked to know it may do some good after all  :), or at least get considered now. Was disappointed earlier to hear it may all become just "correspondence".

Im sure the "Board" will be in red alert mode (defcon 4) trying to do anything it can to swing this their way perhaps even to accidentally "destroy" as many submission documents against this bill as they can get their grubby little suit mits on now lol.... Nothing shocks me at this point.

Is this the worst "Board" ever??
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Wal

#52
March 22, 2013, 06:37:31 AM
Rodza I don't think they will be too worried as by the time the decision comes out they will already have the money from licensing and discipline so there is no longer a risk of them being insolvent. But I see it this way - if the Bill isn't passed we have gone from the Ombudsman telling them to pay back $600,000 for the first event, then we will claim the $600,000 from the second event and the one we are paying now is the third event at $600,000.  So it will have escalated to $1.8 million.

If the Bill does pass then we go to court and hold the Board and CEO liable for not taking reasonable care and acting in bad faith . The Bill will prove it was an illegal action and is it taking reasonable care doing illegal acts and is it acting in bad faith doing an illegal action that affects others knowing it is illegal.

Get ready to start collecting signatures for a class action and fund raising for the lawyers fees.
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robbo

#53
March 22, 2013, 05:30:24 PM

Hi guys,
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Hon Maurice Williamson
Minister for Building and Construction
14 March 2013
"It has always been the Government's intention that the Board's prosecution function would be funded by the industry. This is how all other boards in the building and construction sector operate," Mr. Williamson says.
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It had always been my intention to be a law abiding citizen and to fund my bills through honest hard work, however since the introduction of such high cost levies/licenses to buy a licence to work I have had to rob dairies to pay these bills! Hope I don`t get caught or I will have to pay the money back and go to jail!! But who will look after my wife and 3 kids?
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So that's alright then, cheers
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Rodza1

#54
March 22, 2013, 06:16:36 PM
The lesson Maurice is sending to the industry and the general public is do what ever the f*ck you like,  and if you get caught, make it legal later by speaking to the right people or talking your way out of it.

Right...now thats been said...off to cause some anarchy in my city then get off scot free haha. Thanks for the life lesson uncle Maurice  8)
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Badger

#55
March 23, 2013, 08:18:42 AM
 8)  I am all for parity in the trades.....I would love to pay what a sparky does for their licences and same CPD requirements.... ONCE EVERY TWO YEARS
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aboutgas

#56
March 23, 2013, 03:31:28 PM
Quote from: Badger on March 23, 2013, 08:18:42 AM
8)  I am all for parity in the trades.....I would love to pay what a sparky does for their licences and same CPD requirements.... ONCE EVERY TWO YEARS

I second that. Fees and levies are getting beyond a joke and with a minister condoning legalized theft its no wonder I've dusted of the passport   
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Unless the moral improves the floggings will continue

Jaxcat

#57
March 26, 2013, 11:49:07 PM
Put that passport away - you know you love it here - the problem with Australia is there are too many Australians - ;)

Anyway, what would you complain about if you went back to Australia - wages that were too high, a regulator that is common sense, cheap licensing fees, better weather - oh and the best bit - being surrounded by lots and lots of Kiwis!   ;D
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Watchdog

#58
March 27, 2013, 04:36:02 PM
Aboutgas you probably wouldn't qualify to get back in the country now but if we work on it hard enough we can get a criminal conviction for the Board and Williamson and then they will qualify to enter Australia. 

We could get the Board to pay for it as they have done so in the past for a pissup so why not for something serious.
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