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robbo

#30
March 19, 2013, 09:40:47 AM
hi guys, ("I think the Ombudsman's Office is wrong)!!!!
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The country does not need an`OMBUDSMAN` we have got Maurice Williamson, cheers
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Jaxcat

#31
March 19, 2013, 10:18:35 AM
Hmmm and does he wear his undies on the outside of his pants too aka Superman?
;)
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Badger

#32
March 19, 2013, 05:16:53 PM
I feel sorry for him being led up the garden path treated like a mushroom....kept in the dark and fed bullshit....

Maurice.... have a good look around you and see who are the people who are filling your head with nonsense..........they are looking after themselves.........at your expense.

Maurice you are loosing credibility hand over fist, legalising illegal actions, telling the Ombudsman, Regulation Review Committee, Auditor General.....and soon the select committee that they got it wrong and that you and your little pal Bickers are right......
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Plumber

#33
March 19, 2013, 08:21:39 PM
Hi Robbo, wow! i cant manage to get one reply! Are you swearing in your emails???
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robbo

#34
March 19, 2013, 08:34:36 PM
hi plumber, you have to do volume, i wrote one email and then copy/paste the whole lot of M.Ps.eads into it,try that,cheers
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integrated

#35
March 19, 2013, 09:12:20 PM
Quote from: robbo on March 19, 2013, 08:34:36 PM
hi plumber, you have to do volume, i wrote one email and then copy/paste the whole lot of M.Ps.eads into it,try that,cheers



yes - once the dodgy feckers see that others are copied in they realise they have to at least respond for fear of being outdone by others...
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Badger

#36
March 19, 2013, 09:43:58 PM
Guys, I really feel that we are finally getting some real momentum and traction, we should go for broke now, as much publicity as possible, a show of strength and numbers and broadcast all the shit we have been dealt.

All the hard work that the Federation have put in to get this, this far, needs to be recognised by your actions and efforts, these guys have put in years and years to get to this point....whats an email to your MP in comparison, its for OUR industry.

One thing is for sure....... an opportunity like this don't come about often...........Jesus, its never happened before.........Think on it.

Tell as many politicians what you know, make sure its factual and you can back it up.

These bastards are experts in riding out storms and sweeping stuff under the carpet and allowing time to do their work....well some storms can f**** you up no matter where you duck for cover.

;D...Might need to take my lap top to the shop tomorrow, I literally spat my tea over it ...."Robbo...are you swearing in your emails", LOL.
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craftsman

#37
March 19, 2013, 09:49:54 PM
perhaps, just perhaps christmas is coming for these turkeys.
maybe i didn swear enough in my email... hmm
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robbo

#38
March 19, 2013, 10:12:18 PM
Hi guys, having listened to most of the M.Ps. talk on the new bill, they only seem to know half of the story and focus on the liquidation of the board if the bill does not go through, they no nothing of conflict of interest and points collecting to be able to get a licence, I say let them go broke, get rid of them and appoint a new board who can manage the `issue of licences` more economically. Has anyone bothered to look into what the board actually do? Presumably they have an office full of workers doing what? What do they need $5million for? It just beggars belief that it could cost that much to run an office, I reckon they must all sit around twiddling their fingers until they can find someone doing some `illegal plumbing` then it's all hands to the pump to rake in some funds, cheers   
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robbo

#39
March 19, 2013, 10:20:13 PM
hi guys, sorry about your laptop badger, yes i thought that was quite a funny thing to say too, i don`t think swearing at them will get us anywhere, when are the amendment bill submissions going to be read out and speakers going to take place? cheers
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Jaxcat

#40
March 20, 2013, 03:44:18 AM
Robbo - Select Committee meets today - there is 45 minutes of speakers - that is three speakers at 15 minutes each.  The Committee are only accepting three submissions which were invited from what I can gather.  Anyone else who has sent anything in will have it tabled as "correspondence" as the Committee were not inviting public submissions on this subject.  This in itself is challengeable given that we are meant to be living in a democracy.  My understanding is that the committee will treat the "correspondence" as if it were a submission.  The Select Committee have ONE DAY to get the background on the Amendment Bill, hear the submissions of the three organisations (The Federation and presumably Master Plumbers and the PGDB), read the "correspondence" and make a decision.  I think Mr Williamson wants the whole thing done and dusted within the week - and then the real fight will start. 

I hope there are good numbers to hear the speakers today - this part is open to the public.
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wombles

#41
March 20, 2013, 07:00:21 AM
Is it streamed live and if it is, any idea what time?
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Badger

#42
March 20, 2013, 08:06:57 AM
Building and Construction Minister Maurice Williamson has thumbed his nose at public watchdog the Ombudsman by refusing to refund hundreds of thousands of dollars in illegally gathered industry levies to plumbers and other tradespeople.

Mr Williamson is already under fire for fast-tracking legislation to retrospectively legalise the collection of the money which was used by industry regulator the Plumbers Gasfitters and Drainlayers Board to chase "cowboys" out of the industry.

But on Friday, the day after Mr Williamson's bill was fiercely debated in Parliament, Ombudsman David McGee released his final opinion and recommendations on a complaint he received about the board's "disciplinary levy".

Mr McGee upheld Wellington plumber Wal Gordon's complaint that the fee was illegal and he estimated the amount illegally collected by the board between July 2010 and January 2012 at $600,000.

Mr McGee recommended that the board should negotiate an arrangement "whereby the excess levies paid could in whole or in part be refunded over a period or some credit could be given in respect of future fee or levy payments in compensation".


But Mr Williamson yesterday dismissed Mr McGee's recommendation.

"I think the Ombudsman's Office is wrong. The board would be technically insolvent if they had to pay this money back," he said.
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robbo

#43
March 20, 2013, 08:32:42 AM
hi guys, what qualifications does maurice williamson have to say that the `Auditor General` and the `Ombudsman` are wrong? if he is so knowledgeable in these fields the goverment do not need these offices or their staff, just install marice williamson and call it `Gods Office`cheers
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Badger

#44
March 20, 2013, 08:48:53 AM
Rule to use mate is if you don't agree with him or his little gang the Board, you are wrong.....no matter what your qualifications.

I didn't realise how far up his own arse his head was until Jax summed up the total amount of organisations that had got it all wrong in Maurice's eyes.

Please see attached the Board's policy on consultation with the industry and its policy on rooting out corruption.
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